32 The Law Commission 123.  At  the  time  that  the  LR  Commission  and  Law  Reform  Committees  were established  a  conscious  decision  was  made  not  to  establish  a  full  time  Law Commission.  The  member  of  the  judiciary  on  the  LR  Commission,  Turner  J, agreed with this position in 1969 stating:³⁴ If   it   is   said   that   this   professionally   streamlined   machine   [the   English   Law Commission] must be vastly more efficient than our own amateur apparatus, it may be replied that the situation in any given country often tends to generate the kind of solution which on the whole fits that situation best. As a matter of pure expense New Zealand cannot afford five men of the calibre of the English Commissioners, dealing  with  law  reform  exclusively  as  a  full  time  fully  paid  job;  nor  does  the legislative situation in this country call for such expensive machinery. 124.  But  this  position  was  beginning  to  be  questioned  in  the  1970s.  In  1973  the Wellington  District  Law  Society  held  a  seminar  on  “The  Machinery  of  Law Reform in New Zealand” at Victoria University, a report of which was published in the New Zealand Law Journal.³⁵ At this seminar both Mr D J White, and the Hon A H Nordmeyer argued that a full time Law Commission was warranted in New Zealand, albeit smaller than the English Law Commission. It was argued that cost was not a problem as it was a reasonable charge on the taxpayer. 125.  The  arguments  were  canvassed  again  in  an  article  in  the  New  Zealand  Law Journal in 1976, the author arguing in favour of the establishment of a full time Law  Commission.³⁶    By  the  1980s  the  New  Zealand Law Society was also in favour of a full time Law Commission.³⁷ 126.  Support  for  a  full  time,  independent,  law  reform  agency  was  bolstered  by  the establishment  of  full  time  law  reform  agencies  in  Canada  (the  Ontario  Law Reform Commission, established in 1964), the United Kingdom and Scotland in 1965, and the heavily researched publications coming out of these agencies.³⁸ 127.  The  Labour  Party  included  the  establishment  of  such  an  agency  in  its  election manifesto in 1984, but it was not until 1985, after the Labour Party was elected to  Government  that  the  Law  Commission  Bill  was  introduced.    The  Bill  was passed  in  December  1985,  and  came  into  force  early  in  1986.    Upon  its                                                  34    Above n22, 412. 35    “Wellington Seminar on Law Reform”, above n24. 36   David B Collins, above n24, 441. 37   465 NZPD 6586 (1985).